Guide to the Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project
1930s-1980s

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Creator: Idaho Oral History Center
Title: Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project
Dates: 1930s-1980s ( inclusive )
Quantity: 12 oral history interviews (24 audio cassettes, 500 pp. of transcripts and other paper documentation), and 2 boxes, which include research, correspondence, and notes relating to the book, Sitting Tall: Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho, and a museum exhibit of the same name.
Collection Number: Saddlemaking
Summary: This collection is comprised of fifteen interviews conducted by Linda Morton-Keithley in 1990 for the Idaho State Historical Society on information about saddlemaking in Idaho. The saddlemakers interviewed discussed the time period between the 1930s and 1980s and came from widely varied backgrounds. Some interviewees learned the trade from family members, others apprenticed, and some fell into saddlemaking by accident and developed the skills on their own. They have pre-saddlemaking work backgrounds as ranchers, working cowboys, professional rodeo cowboys, or leatherworkers.
Repository: Idaho State Historical Society. Public Archives and Research Library.
Idaho Oral History Center

2205 Old Penitentiary Road
Boise, Idaho 83712-8250
208-334-3863 - phone
208-334-3198 - fax
www.idahohistory.net

Languages: English 
Sponsor: Funding for encoding this finding aid was provided through a grant awarded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.

Historical Note

This collection is comprised of 12 interviews conducted by Linda Morton-Keithley for the Idaho State Historical Society to document saddlemaking in Idaho. The saddlemakers interviewed came from widely varied backgrounds. Some interviewees learned the trade from family members, others apprenticed, and some fell into saddlemaking by accident and developed the skills on their own. They have pre-saddlemaking work backgrounds as ranchers, working cowboys, professional rodeo cowboys, or leatherworkers.

Interviewees consistently discussed the decline of the need for saddles. Many different factors applied. Ray Holes, a saddlemaker in Grangeville, Idaho, saw an initial demise to the saddle with the advent of the automobile. "Cars were coming in 1922 and I guess people just weren't buying saddles, you know. They'd quit buying, there were saddles for sale, people weren't riding." (Holes interview, OH 910)

An apprenticeship program for veterans was set up by the U.S. Government following World War II. The program was overseen by state officials and had a specific agenda of skills to be learned. Holes trained three veterans to be saddlemakers, and some of them were successful. Ben Tarrell was injured during WWII and was unable to return to ranch work. He was an apprentice for Holes from 1945 to 1949.

All interviewees discussed the qualities of a good saddlemaker. Holes felt that it takes about ten years of practice to make a good saddlemaker. One must have a natural ability and an artistic touch and must care for fine craftsmanship in the goods produced. His son, Gerald Holes, agreed. Also a saddlemaker, Gerald listed dedication, taking pleasure in one's work, manual dexterity, and a sense of aesthetics and balance as necessary qualities of a good saddlemaker. Both agreed that a saddlemaker must understand horses.

Fancier saddles are far more popular now. However, many of the saddlemakers preferred to work with cowboys versus rodeo competitors. Rodeo changed the saddle. Competition seems to be taking over as a modern concern. With more leisure time for events such as roping competitions, changes have been made to the design of the saddle, improving time in clocked events.

The saddlemakers believed that the quality and availability of leather has decreased. The availability of leather has decreased because many companies have gone out of business, some due to environmental concerns. In regards to quality, many tanners prefer a faster, chemical process rather than bark tanning. Though faster, the chemicals weaken the leather. Cattle are butchered at a younger age now, producing smaller hides with much less area for saddle pieces. The demand for high quality is not as prevalent. Today there is much less ranch work. People buy saddles for recreational and pleasure riding. Consumers look for saddles to use only a few times a year; therefore, more affordable saddles produced in factories outsell custom work. The pleasure riding industry is huge. There are companies that make fifty saddles each day, but those saddles simply won't do for ranch work. According to Don Brown, who called the factory saddle market the "junk market," (Brown interview, OH 924) it takes 20 hours to make a single plain custom saddle.

These interviews contain much discussion of fads in the saddlemaking industry including what was popular and in what region. Some basic knowledge and appreciation of the parts and construction of various types of saddles is useful to the audience. Several interviewees discussed developments, innovations, and techniques in saddle making. Topics include rigging, forks, horns, saddle trees, cantles, and changes in horses through the years.

Many saddlemakers believe that the future of Western saddles will remain on the ranches and for pleasure riding. Four-wheeled vehicles can not completely displace the horse, but they have certainly reduced the demand for work saddles. However, Tarrell believes that the age of the apprenticeship is over. Young people are not inclined to work four years of hard labor for low wages in order to learn a trade. Tarrell said that the people who make saddles in the future will have picked it up as a child and continue with it into adulthood. According to those interviewed, while the art form of saddle making has a rich history in Idaho, the future of "good saddles" is poor.

Content Description

The Idaho State Historical Society's Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project collection consists of tape-recorded interviews, transcripts, indexes, summaries, signed release forms, and biographical information detailing interviews with 15 narrators with pre-saddlemaking work backgrounds as ranchers, working cowboys, professional rodeo cowboys, or leatherworkers.

Use of the Collection

Restrictions on Access :  

Collection is open for research

Administrative Information

Arrangement :

The collection is divided into two series. Series I is the content on each interview; Series II is the 2 boxes of research, correspondence, and material relating to the book, Sitting Tall: Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho, and the museum exhibit of the same name.

Acquisition Information :  

The collection was acquired in 1990, processing of the collection continued through 1992.

Related Materials :  

The work conducted on the oral history project led to a book, Sitting Tall: Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho, and a museum exhibit of the same name. Researchers should check other reference material inside the ISHS Public Archives and Research LIbrary, including historical newspapers, vertical files, and photographs, for more possible research material.

Location of Originals :  

Idaho State Historical Society. Public Archives and Research Library


Detailed Description of the Collection

OH911: Ben Tarrell interview
Tarrell, Ben, 1923- (interviewee)
1 cassette.
Sound recordings :
22 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 4 Apr. 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 Apr. 4
OH926: Bob Kelly interview
Kelly, Bob, 1918- (interviewee)
1 cassette.
Sound recordings :
19 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 11 Oct. 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 Oct. 11
OH923: Bob Schild interview
Schild, Bob, (interviewee)
2 cassettes.
Sound recordings :
35 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include cowboy poetry, American cowboys' writings in Idaho, and rodeos and saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 23 Aug. 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 Aug. 23
OH929: Cary Schwarz interview
Schwarz, Cary, 1959- (interviewee)
2 cassettes.
Sound recordings :
28 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 12 Feb. 1991 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1991 Feb. 12
OH1066: Cliff Stansell interview
Stansell, Cliff R., 1951- (interviewee)
1 cassette.
Sound recordings :
24 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 14 June 1991 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1991 June 14
OH925: Dale Harwood interview
Harwood, Dale, 1935- (interviewee)
2 cassettes.
Sound recordings :
26 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 22 Aug. 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 Aug. 22
OH924: Don Brown interview
Brown, Donald L., 1936- (interviewee)
2 cassettes.
Sound recordings :
37 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 10 Aug. 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 Aug. 10
OH912: Gerald Holes interview
Holes, Gerald, (interviewee)
1 cassette (45 min.)
Sound recordings :
21 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 3 May 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 May 3
OH930: Melvin Houver interview
Houver, Melvin Joel, 1907-1994, (interviewee)
2 cassettes.
Sound recordings :
38 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 12 Feb. 1991 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1991 Feb. 12
OH1067: Nancy Hoggan interview
Hoggan, Nancy Brockman, 1958- (interviewee)
1 cassette.
Sound recordings :
19 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery and rodeos in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 9 July 1991 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project .
1991 July 9
OH910: Ray Holes interview
Holes, Ray, 1911- (interviewee)
2 cassettes (90 min.)
Sound recordings :
41 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include horses and saddlery in Idaho. Places represented include Grangeville, Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of Idaho State Historical Society on 3 May 1990 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1990 May 3
OH934: Robert Severe interview
Severe, Robert, 1944- (interviewee)
1 cassette.
Sound recordings :
21 leaves.
Transcript :
Topics include saddlery in Idaho.
Interviewed by Linda Morton-Keithley under the auspices of the Idaho State Historical Society on 28 Feb. 1991 as part of the Saddles and Saddlemaking in Idaho Oral History Project.
1991 Feb. 28

Subjects

This collection is indexed under the following headings in the online catalog. Researchers desiring materials about related topics, persons, or places should search the catalog using these headings.

  • Corporate Names :
  • Idaho Oral History Center
  • Idaho State Historical Society
  • Subject Terms :
  • Horses--Idaho
  • Polo--Idaho--Boise
  • Saddlery--Idaho

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